I thought the same thing about the airplane room for the longest time. Recently, I was told that is was projects by one of our members, and that he just wasn't doing anything with them for a while, and that that room was, indeed, part of our space.
Can we get definitive clarification on this? Metis, would it be okay if I asked you specifically to clarify this? I imagine you either know for sure, or know how to find out for sure.
I like the space we're in. I'm annoyed by having to keep a path open. I know it's probably part of why we're getting a stupid good deal on the rent, but it really takes a big slice right out of the middle of some prime real estate.
I have a question about the "classroom" space, and I want to address it directly to jwb, but others may join in as well: Do you think there's any way to turn the classroom into a dual purpose space that would be like what you described?
Specifically, if we painted the walls, (metis, I'm not discarding your liking of white walls, just pretedned it doesn't exist for a moment) added incandescent (which I love) as an alternative to the fluorescent lighting that's in there, and maybe put some carpet down, and made it easier to rearrange the tables into a mega table that we could all sit around, or maybe 2 mega tables, then, what would that space be like in compared to the ideal you've described previously?
We don't currently have the kind of room you want. The classroom is where what you describe ends up happening. I'd be very willing to invest a LOT of sweat equity to make the classroom a dual purpose space that would still work as a classroom (I've now seen it used as a classroom a total of 2 times, b ut that's just me) and as a hackerspace kind of room. (You've shown pictures and talked about what that kind of space would be like)
The main reason I think about the classroom for this is, I don't see it happening in our current location outside of that room.
I really, really really want our space to be as inclusive as possible. The type of room that JWB describes might not be where I would most of the time when I'm at the space, but I think that that kind of room is Vitally Important to a hackerspace. I think having something like that would draw in even more people, possibly the type that might not be using wood or metal tools.
So, for me, a lot of this comes down to the following:
1. What kinds of space do we need and want? Wood, metal, classroom, not dusty comfortable hackery space? It sounds like the forementioned poll would go a long way to answering this question, but I for sure would like to see those 4 things included, and my gut feel is thats what I'm hearing too.
2. Is it possible to do all this in our current space?
3. Is it possible to do all this in a different space with our current budget?
4. What is our current budget, anyway? What are the trends for how much $ we've got coming in and going out? I hear the phrase "holding steady at 30 or 35 members" or "we're just making enough to pay rent and bills", but that seems a little vague. When I log on to my internal starbucks site, I , as a starbucks partner, can see exactly how many stores we currently have, how many employees, some basic p/l info, and what the stock is trading at. As a member here, I'd like to know how we're doing as far as having enough members.
I'm stopping now, as this post has a great many words to it. I do want to make sure that everyone knows that I want this to be a space that's excellent for all of us, and that I"ll help make it so.