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smittex
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Post subject: Re: Group Build - Vacuum Form Table Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:28 pm |
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Lets work backwards and determine the range of materials we would like to use in it then we can calculate the required power needed.
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Orkraider
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Post subject: Re: Group Build - Vacuum Form Table Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:34 pm |
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Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:14 am Posts: 645 Location: downtown Saint Paul
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the spiral heating elements from a stove were my first thought as well.
Then I thought, how about the heating elements from ovens?
I expect both might work.
a gas burner might be an option too.
I'm excited about this build, and glad to see posts in here!
Riley
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Booka
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Post subject: Re: Group Build - Vacuum Form Table Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:48 pm |
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Not that I am an expert on this, but I was a fry cook back in the 80's.
Heat lamps have two issues from what I can see, first is that they radiate heat in a circle, so covering overlapping zones means many more lamps, where wire or a heating element can just be aligned closer.
Second is that they are very expensive both cost and power consumption. Now I know our power is paid for, but still I think to get the 20 lamps we would need to build a larger table, it makes much more sense to go with the NiChrome or with what Jude had originally thought was to raid the elements from a couple of old electric ovens.
Now I know we can find ovens on Craigslist, or Freecycle, but it of course would be more work than the Wire. I do have some free time at the moment, so if we want to go with stoves, we can talk to Jude who had a couple of possible sources and pick those up, or find others.
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cgallaty
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Post subject: Re: Group Build - Vacuum Form Table Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:42 pm |
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I've seen spools of nichrome on eBay for uber cheap before (shipping is the real issue there) useful stuff to have handy if we get a spool. I would use the stock toaster zig zag for the pattern, that's just one length on the side lines and 9 side lengths at 6" apart. That's a good 40' of wire. You likely are going to want to put a fan (or fans) on the other side of that to circulate the heat and keep it blowing on the plastic. Man, I haven't done vacuum forms since shop class at school! 
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smittex
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Post subject: Re: Group Build - Vacuum Form Table Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:33 pm |
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otto_pjm
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Post subject: Re: Group Build - Vacuum Form Table Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:22 pm |
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smittex wrote: I think the best part was the link in the comments to here, http://tk560.com/vactable4.htmlwhich looks like pretty much what the group is talking about, it reminded me too that I may have the perfect stand-offs for the nichrome. I'll bring some in for folks to check out. Pete
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Orkraider
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Post subject: Re: Group Build - Vacuum Form Table Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:42 am |
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Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:14 am Posts: 645 Location: downtown Saint Paul
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looks like you can get nichrome wire , 22 gauge, at $20 for over 100 feet.
If that will do the job, sounds like the way to go.
Riley
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jwb
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Post subject: Re: Group Build - Vacuum Form Table Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:33 am |
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There was some 22 gauge nichrome on the junk shelves in a small orange plastic bag, though I imagine it might have gotten thrown out.
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mcsteve
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Post subject: Re: Group Build - Vacuum Form Table Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:11 pm |
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jwb wrote: There was some 22 gauge nichrome on the junk shelves in a small orange plastic bag, though I imagine it might have gotten thrown out. Negative, I believe I placed it on the tool shelf thing, near where the foam cutter is hanging.
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jwb
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Post subject: Re: Group Build - Vacuum Form Table Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:32 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:47 am Posts: 295 Location: Minneapolis
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Good man!
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